MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2007-02-13

2007-02-13T17:47:55  <starshine> 21
2007-02-13T17:52:27  <xorAxAx> 42
2007-02-13T17:52:46  <birkenfeld> EOD.
2007-02-13T17:54:40  <xorAxAx> EOF
2007-02-13T17:56:10  <birkenfeld> OOM
2007-02-13T18:20:40  * ThomasWaldmann .oO(some N2O here?)
2007-02-13T18:25:15  <starshine> ^Z zz ^O oops :)
2007-02-13T18:25:54  <starshine> ok
2007-02-13T18:26:49  <starshine> weird...
2007-02-13T18:27:26  * starshine pinches self, am I here now?
2007-02-13T18:28:04  <starshine> does planning documentation tweaks come here or stay in #moin?
2007-02-13T18:34:42  <ThomasWaldmann> [X] you are here
2007-02-13T18:35:16  <ThomasWaldmann> i think it does not matter which chan in that case. but, I have to go soon. :)
2007-02-13T18:38:34  <starshine> ok bye then :D
2007-02-13T18:39:13  <xorAxAx> starshine: wazzup? :)
2007-02-13T18:39:51  <starshine> oh I just figured it was about time I should get out the old "cookbook recipe" style docs plan
2007-02-13T18:40:15  <starshine> our getting started stuff works well for abstract minds, terribly for step by step minds
2007-02-13T18:41:45  <starshine> MMDE is the real answer to people who don't *want* to understand how to install it, but MMDE itself is deliberately limited in scope, so..
2007-02-13T18:43:12  <starshine> recipes for specific usage scenarios, ending in "if this is close but not exact, see HelpOnInstalling/(applicable subpage)
2007-02-13T18:43:15  <starshine> "
2007-02-13T18:52:11  <xorAxAx> hmm
2007-02-13T18:52:30  <xorAxAx> interestingly, there is good documentation out there that does not work like that :)
2007-02-13T18:52:59  <xorAxAx> and, the current concept looks a bit like it - it differentiates between different applications, i.e. server types
2007-02-13T18:55:28  * ThomasWaldmann .oO(more docs don't fix the problem that people have to read it)
2007-02-13T18:55:55  <starshine> TW, no, but presenting it right often does :)
2007-02-13T18:55:59  * starshine must go
2007-02-13T20:58:32  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann:some more about bottleneck of SystemInfo in 1.6
2007-02-13T20:58:55  <dreimark> def getItem do call refresh
2007-02-13T20:59:10  <xorAxAx> dreimark: hmm?
2007-02-13T20:59:24  <dreimark> and refresh time depends on lenght of editlog file
2007-02-13T20:59:54  <dreimark> xorAxAx:SystemInfo is extremly slow in cgi
2007-02-13T21:00:40  <xorAxAx> well, its doing something equivalent to du -sh data, dreimark
2007-02-13T21:00:40  <dreimark> and the most time it spends on getting the PageList
2007-02-13T21:01:08  <dreimark> du is fast as getting the pagelist
2007-02-13T21:01:13  <dreimark> faster
2007-02-13T21:02:10  <xorAxAx> not for large wikis
2007-02-13T21:02:19  <xorAxAx> and cold cache
2007-02-13T21:03:01  <dreimark> can you try in refresh just a  self.cache = {} and return and compare this
2007-02-13T21:13:07  <dreimark> xorAxAx:if I use an edit-log file of 0 bytes I do have something around 15 seconds
2007-02-13T21:13:21  <dreimark> with a 50 kB file it takes a minute
2007-02-13T21:13:32  <xorAxAx> well, that sounds broken
2007-02-13T21:17:24  <dreimark> are the MoinMoinChat Logs now acl protected if so can I get access?
2007-02-13T21:21:54  <xorAxAx> dreimark: hmm?
2007-02-13T21:22:03  <xorAxAx> does the logging still not work?
2007-02-13T21:22:11  <dreimark> I don't see one
2007-02-13T21:22:23  <xorAxAx> then ask thomas to fix the cron line that does the importing
2007-02-13T21:22:33  <xorAxAx> on my side, its working fine
2007-02-13T21:22:37  <xorAxAx> moinBot: hi
2007-02-13T21:22:37  <moinBot> xorAxAx: Error: "hi" is not a valid command.
2007-02-13T21:22:43  <xorAxAx> see, still alive
2007-02-13T21:23:28  <dreimark> http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev is empty for me
2007-02-13T21:23:53  <xorAxAx> well yes, please ask thomas, like i said a few weeks ago
2007-02-13T21:25:09  <dreimark> btw. SystemInfo produces high loads