## Short description ## Describe the observation in one or few sentences, so one can understand the issue ## without reading the page itself. ## Example: New users failing to create new page, choosing one of the templates instead ## of the "Create New Empty Page" link. '''After creating an account, user get confused by preferences''' = Observation = After logging in, the new user sees a long list of options he doesn't understand and doesn't need really need to. He wonders, "what do I do now?" The user felt the need to look at each item and consider whether he should check or uncheck. He didn't understand most -- but did have a laugh at "Disable this account forever" :) ## Describe the users observed: are they typical users? small group with special needs? Single observation. Technical background but not a programmer. ## How did you make this observation? watched them behind the back? email support? ## watching wiki activity? User was observed over-the-shoulder while assisting with account creation. ## MoinMoin details: version, server if it related MoinMoin 1.3.4 ## Client operating system and browser Internet Explorer 6. Windows XP. Sinorca4Moin theme. -- GregWhittier = Discussion = I think the the problem is again the concept of a user preferences page doing both login, creating accounts and setting preferences. When a user create an account, its because they want to edit some page that only registered users can, or subscribe to a page. This is common situation: 1. User want to edit SomePage which has acl 2. User create an account or login 3. User moved to UserPreferences page But the user wanted to go to SomePage! editor... This happen to me every time I visit a new wiki - quite annoying. -- NirSoffer <> Is it possible just to go back to the main page or just give a choice "main page" or "edit preferences?" -- GregWhittier Mediawiki returns to the last page visited before logging in. On [[http://www.daviswiki.org|Daviswiki]] you also stay on the same page as the one you were on before logging in. Daviswiki uses a modyfied MoinMoin Version. I observed the same confusion with my workplace and Wiki usage, even among software engineers. The Login screen is very confusing and I have seen them stare blankly at it. If we compare this [[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Userlogin&returnto=Main_Page|Mediawiki's implementation]], it serves the same purpose but is a lot more clear. Also, it emphasises that logging in is not required (this is the alternative text when you hover over the "Create account / log in" link on the top right). The heading for the page should probably be different from "User Preferences" when they haven't logged in too. When a person has logged in, there should also be a 'Log out' link too. Or at least call it "User Preferences / Log out" -- JulianYap <> ''The monobook theme has this near the userpreferences link at the top of the page. I agree with Julian; If things for login handling are improved please make this a requirement or 'should have' for other/new themes too'' -- ArpKruithof <> /!\ As of moin--main--1.5--patch-487 Login is much simpler. I have made an excellent experience with a FirstSteps page that explains a new user how to 1. create a new account 1. log in for the first time 1. create a user page This has even gotten easier with the new option {{{[[UserPreferences(createonly)]]}}}. You can see our first steps page (in German) here: [[http://golf530.server4you.de/wiwa/ErsteSchritte]] -- ChristophKoenig <> ---- CategoryUsabilityObservation