'''Short description''' ## Tell your story here. ## What is the problem you are trying to solve? ## Is this features useful to most users or just to specific users? There is internally a difference between a page that does not exist at all and a page that was deleted. If you have some MoinMoin knowledge, you can find and recall the content of a page that has been deleted. However if you enter a page name that is not currently known (or more often you follow an outdated link to such a page name) you always get the same "new page" info: {{{ This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. Before creating the page, please check if a similar page already exists. }}} My proposal is to change this in case of a page name where a (deleted) page exists, e.g. to something like: {{{ A page by this name existed, however it has been deleted on by . You can still see the revison info. Click [?action=info here] for more... Alternatively, you can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. Before creating the page, please check if a similar page already exists. }}} This is just an idea to improve usability and reduce confusion, not something I'm going to investigate myself at the moment. Maybe it can go on the 2.0 Todo list... -- RobertSeeger <> You can write a short macro which shows the above line if necessary (and then it can be called from MissingPage). Feel free to contribute one. Oh, I see now that this "new page" is handled via a "proper page" (I'm still used to 1.1. where it was written in stone, err, I mean code ;-). So this should be the way to do it, however I'd need more knowledge about the history and edit logs to implement such a macro - so maybe some day, but not now... -- RobertSeeger <> Not really, you can simply use this (rather confusing) test in your macro: {{{ page.exists(includeDeleted=1) and not page.exists() }}} ---- CategoryFeatureRequest CategoryMoinMoinPatch